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aff9a - 2y

Would you use this relay? You have to AUTH (which clients support AUTH today?) to post. I'll scan every known relay out there. If your post shows up anywhere else I'll retract it from this relay so that it is no longer served (notifying you by DM of the retraction). The only content that will remain is whatever is not posted elsewhere. I.e., only users that use this relay alone as a public relay.

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Counter Narrative @wolfbearclaw - 2y

Only thing I would say is I can take anyone’s post and push it to any relay. The post is already signed and any other relay would accept it. If I wanted to be a dick I could go and blast someone post around to ensure it doesn’t get saved in your relay.

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aff9a - 2y

Dammit. Okay, then I'll resign the content under a different key paired with each user. And I'll rewrite queries for users content to use the paired keys. For clients that just render query results, you'll see them in the follows you. But I will *also* return your followers this way for anything that looks like a global feed query - so you can at least see the view there. Now you can post these resigned messages elsewhere but people won't see them on their own follows page.

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aff9a - 2y

This should work because the users are only configured to use this relay.

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aff9a - 2y

I will make sure to note which keys validated as nip05 and mark that somewhere. And any key that I make that is paired with a real key will get a nip05 at my relay. So if the original note is from [email protected] then rewritten note will be from [email protected]@crazy.relay and you'll just trust crazy.relay until you don't.

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3d64c - 2y

By auth do you mean conventional auth? User, pass, token…? Also, what would be the motivations to someone use this relay? Overall I like experiments and would take a look. Something that would make easier to participate is some client that lets you easily choose what of your relays you want to post the message without going to settings, relays etc

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aff9a - 2y

AUTH = NIP42

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3bf0c - 2y

I don't think I would use this: #[0], but if it worked it would create a certain aura of exclusivity for content posted in this relay. Better yet if you restrict reads somehow, make them harder to get or something like that.

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3bf0c - 2y

Other relay ideas (not very good, just to sparkle your imagination): - a relay only for people with top-level domain names (no "@" at the NIP-05) - a relay that only stores the most recent post of people - a relay that only stores posts that have received at least 10 replies from other people (big threads) - a relay that only serves posts to people "bitcoin" on their profile metadata The most interesting crazy relay idea to comment on this post will earn a marvelous prize of 10000 sats.

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2ce3a - 2y

Sorry, but what is a sat?

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7ef7d - 2y

1 Bitcoin = 100,000,000 sats

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34c0a - 2y

A relay that only serves laser eyes.

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668ce - 2y

A relay that only serves images might be cool

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7ef7d - 2y

A relay only for Twitter blue users

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45c41 - 2y

A yellow page relay that only accept user metadata and following list, serve as social graphs list

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ee9aa - 2y

I will try the crazy idea...

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d9921 - 2y

A relay that posts the exact opposite of what users intend to post

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198ae - 2y

A relay for music

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0575b - 2y

a relay i have to pay small sats to post on it --> spam free relay where you could use global again

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Merrcurr⚡️ @Merrcurr - 2y

A relay for wholecoiners and up. Could be called the "nostr.monaco.io", how to verify "trust me bro". Entry price, 50M. I guess no one in their right mind would shill 50% of their Bitcoin net worth for this. You said crazy ideas ☺️ [774990]

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Evan Lin @Evan Lin - 2y

A relay that only serves a specific public key range, and redirects to other relays if the public key range is not served. The intention is to enforce some level of distribution. Relays will communicate amongst themselves as to what public key ranges they will serve.

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Evan Lin @Evan Lin - 2y

Oh no. How do we get rid of scam on nostr?

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8b9cc - 2y

A relay that can run from my device?

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Leo Fernevak @Leo Fernevak - 2y

Regional-serving relays will likely be useful. I guess the ping level could be used to determine who the relay serves.

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e492a - 2y

A relay to rule them all

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brianco @brianco - 2y

Relay that stores notes with specific url domain included in the note (e.g. YouTube)

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7ef7d - 2y

Just saw this too #[4]

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 2y

- A relay only for NIP-05 with the same name before the @ (example, everyone has to be jack@<domain> -A relay that only allows you to write to it if your post contains the word “poop” somewhere in it - A relay where every post must be exactly 5 words.

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2b577 - 2y

Repeater relays- A "dumb server pool" to bring down overhead for relay operators. Making 1 relay address more resilient to take down.

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198ae - 2y

#[4]

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95a69 - 2y

A relay that only serves followers and following lists and is hyper efficient at it.

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Leo Fernevak @Leo Fernevak - 2y

Relays that only relay names. Names are the most important data after the note itself.

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aff9a - 2y

*Just* made a note about this -> #[4]

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bc05a - 2y

A relay only for people or bots with a LN Address in their profile

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aff9a - 2y

winner

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542cf - 2y

A relay that requires you to pass a basic IQ test

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34c0a - 2y

Wait, I actually got a good idea. A relay that mirrors viral posts because they might fail to load due to hotlinking.

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yunginter.net @yunginter.net - 2y

This is an easy fix… your client won’t get whitelisted on my relay. The only problem is currently there is no clients that would pass the “don’t WillyNilly rebroadcast” but respecting “nobroadcast” metadata would earn your client whitelist. These ideas are the only thing that can incentivize paying for relays beyond an initial human test substitute for proof of work. relays need to start blacklisting clients who are taking advantage and watch how quickly they move to support a “nobroadcast” tag. in turn relay runners should allocate excess resources out side of paid experiments to clients trying to onboard newbs in the smoothest way possible. But they can’t and shouldn’t be doing that with out a bunch of free relays, or spending money themselves.

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JeffG @JeffG - 2y

Really interesting concept though. Probably wouldn’t be too hard to make a Substack-like system using Nostr… 🤔

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87816 - 2y

A sat is short for satoshi, the smallest unit of value on the bitcoin network. You can split a bitcoin up to 100.000.000 sat. Here on many nostr clients you have the posibility of send and recieve money using bitcoin (the lightning network ⚡) you can tip people that way!

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2ce3a - 2y

Thanks! Do you know of a friendly source about bitcoin, from a user perspective? (I understand the math behind blockchains, but that does not tell me how to get in this thing, from a practical point of view.)

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phil @phil - 2y

I’m testing a regional relay now that uses geolocation to connect you to the closest server #[4]

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87816 - 2y

#[4] start with this guide https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/how-to-start-with-bitcoin

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668ce - 2y

#[4]

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13646 - 2y

Is your goal to make an exclusive sub-nostr? If so, this does not feel like the best way to.

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d0a1f - 2y

I keep noodling on ways to make groups on Nostr as well. I think there is some use for public groups that are tied to a relay. Only approved group members can post, but anyone could read. You need clients to support browsing content from that one relay specifically. Most people probably want private groups though. For that you really need some encryption like MLS. We’ll get there eventually.

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aff9a - 2y

No, it was to get people to interact with single relays to highlight how bad that experience is in clients right now.

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