Nostr View

04ea5 - 2y

### Observations from 50 days on Nostr as an Outsider Extremely Long Note Alert *As an outsider* cos don't have a NIP-05 or Lightning wallet. So,technically I've got no credible identity on Nostr. I could possibly be a bot ⁉️ Moreover, I'm not even a Bitcoin noob let alone maxi. I was surprised that aesthetics coalesced quickly on Nostr, given that it's a protocol 👀 Color: Purple Mascot: Ostrich (specifically a purple nostrich) Ethos: punk, bitcoin maxi, leaning libertarian? Pronounciation: Undecided 😅 **Nostr moves fast** I joined on 4Feb, when Amethyst was mainly text-focused & the global feed seemed exclusively spam. Between then & now, - Global became spam-minimal, thanks to many relay operators & people shifting to paid relays - Reports & client-side filtering - Auto-translate (even spam is more understandable now!) - Quote notes, deletion of notes/reactions - Embedded media preview (photos, videos, YT) - **Zaps** - Badges - Searches & ability to follow hashtags - Markdown - Bookmarks I'm sure it was a similar pace of changes in other clients too, with features added/changed quickly. Moreover, the ecosystem has grown wider to encompass [monitoring relays][E1], for [stats][E2], [zap metrics][E3], [audio spaces][E4], [Lightning][E14] [wallets][E16] [supporting zaps][E17], [signers][E18], [bounties][E5], [searches][E6], [directory][E7], [media][E8] [upload][E9], [longform][E10] [posts][E11], [IFTTT][E12], [curated lists][E13], [etc][E15] 🤯 **Global Feed** About mid-Feb relay feeds (including some public relays) became cleaner allowing me to scroll through 60-90mins everyday. And - After English, most posts are in Japanese, Chinese, Spanish, Portuguese & French(on the rise) - Japanese Nostr is it's own microcosm, with more food pics, slice-of-life posts & micro-apps like for [channels discovery][SP1], [recommendation][SP2], [Wayback machine][SP3] - Spam is still there, but it's about 2-3% of posts maybe & there's variety: shopping discount spam, spam in Chinese something about ChatGPT🤔, Lightning invoice spam, [meta-spam][SP4]. No shower girl anymore thankfully! - Quite a few bots: bitcoin-block ones & a water-bot. Bots for games of chance, cowdle & rock-paper-scissors (now defunct?) - Posts from Mostr bridge tend to be risque or super-niche like Nature papers on marine biology/astrophysics types - Approx 80% posts are about Bitcoin, Nostr & Bitcoin memes (duh!!), though gradually seeing more pet/bird/garden pics, music recs, film recs (saw a couple of John Wick4 recs just today), even a [recipe post][SP6] using Markdown. **What I love(d) here** 1. The community - there's a level of joviality & verve with an upbeat vibe. When I have a query, there's atleast 1 person who helps me out 🙏 Till now, it's been warm & welcoming to me. 2. Devs building in real time getting feedback on Nostr itself. I've never experienced this before & it feels so exciting to see that even among devs it seems to be a very collaborative process. Though at times I wonder how much feedback is too much feedback, to avoid an [implosion like Hic Et Nunc in Nov-2021][L1] 3. How Nostr notes seems persistent & ephemeral at the same time. As there's no guarantee of deletion, there's a sense of once written, can't be undone. But, it's quite arduous to search for old notes + there's no specific data retention spec. Notes are in a potential existential limbo in time, which to me, feels very liberating. 4. Zaps. Even as someone who's not used them, I can see they're a paradigm shift & unlock so many opportunities for value creation. And it seems to be a genuinely fun experience 😅 **What I dislike(d) here** Lack of a discovery mechanism - at the moment it's tough to find notes/people basis interest. Coupled with the skew towards Bitcoin notes in global (& otherwise) this is a dampener. Hopefully it will get better. Sometimes global feed feels like a Bitcoin evangelical forum. I get the Bitcoin is a game-changing innovation, but the schadenfreude for people using fiat/other cryptocurrencies is jarring. The juxtaposition of gloating at bank failures next to "Stay Humble, Stack Sats" seems ironic. I'm afraid that in the miasma of being right, genuine concerns (from whomever it may be, from their pov) will be ridiculed. I hope it's okay to use (try) Nostr without being fully sold on The Bitcoin Standard? 🤔 While I've not faced personal hostility, seeing 1 in every 15-20 posts shitting on people is not encouraging. **Things that confuse(d) me** 1. Why plebs?The notion of pleb here is far removed from plebian IRL (Someone helpfully clarified this) 2. Took a long time to work out that shaka means 🤙 3. Orange/purple-pilling?? What do they mean? 4. Does the icon at the top-center of Amethyst do anything? (Looks way better in dark mode 😈) **Personal Rants** I'm quite boring & have strong opinions on very few topics. So, when I started using Nostr, I only wanted to lurk around; didn't expect much interaction & that's pretty much what happened. But whatever interaction I had, it was very warm, cheerful & genuine; good people to be around! Thank you all (especially if you're reading till here!) so much for that 😊 It also made me realise that I don't miss Twitter, except for some awesome generative art on TL. I feel like I'm breaking an implicit contract here, by not zapping (i.e. participating in the value-for-value ethos). So it's probably time for me to sign out & take a break. Thanks to Vitor; to @someone & @scsibug (hope relay spam-filtering is not taking up too much time) 🙏🙏 I had a fun time here ✌️✌️ --- [E1]:https://nostr.watch/relays/find [E2]:https://stats.nostr.band/ [E3]:https://zaplife.lol/ [E4]:https://nostrnests.com/ [E5]:https://nostrbounties.com/ [E6]:https://nostrview.com/ [E7]:https://nostr.directory/ [E8]:http://nostr.build/ [E9]:https://nostrimg.com/ [E10]:https://habla.news/ [E11]:https://blogstack.io/ [E12]:https://nostrit.com/ [E13]:https://nosli.vercel.app/ [E15]:https://github.com/aljazceru/awesome-nostr [E14]:https://getalby.com/ [E16]: t.me/LightningTipBot [E17]:https://www.walletofsatoshi.com/ [E18]:https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nos2x/kpgefcfmnafjgpblomihpgmejjdanjjp [SP1]: https://garnet.nostrian.net/channels/ [SP2]:https://snort.social/p/npub126yeu6j4c9rhrfz63r9ep2qzvgaquvs3ag2ywpt79jv8z7tvu47qkx6r3n (Recommendation) [SP3]:https://nosaray.vercel.app/ [SP4]:https://snort.social/e/note1pc7x00semfnnxmfflqx7t9tplajdgc4x6s3kq4v94djqkq5k2nhqu8sng0 [SP6]:https://snort.social/p/npub1fwfsmekmd2uw4ve98fqk9gff6mvhh70wme90vvgafampwqe8v8aqkr2200 (Recipe profile) [L1]:https://decrypt.co/86020/tezos-nft-marketplace-hic-et-nunc-discontinued

undefined
undefined
undefined

4b7a3 - 2y

u should set up a wallet of satoshi for zaps

undefined
undefined
undefined

04ea5 - 2y

I don't want to yet 😅 Want to learn more about Bitcoin & Lightning before I use any wallet

undefined
undefined
undefined

04ea5 - 2y

Thank you 😊🙏

undefined
undefined
undefined

0cf08 - 2y

I definitely wouldn’t put a lot of money into anything you don’t understand but there is few better ways to get an understanding of something than just jumping in. That’s kinda what I’m doing now so not an expert and not an evangelist.

undefined
undefined
undefined

4b7a3 - 2y

go at your own pace, Bitcoin isn't going anywhere. you already know a bunch of us are here 🫡

undefined
undefined
undefined

45f8c - 2y

https://nostr.build/i/nostr.build_c939dd77b6b36a3a10cb08bbcfb4646180b2bf1304cb8fc7d879e4c2d8054790.

undefined
undefined
undefined

45f8c - 2y

undefined
undefined
undefined

04ea5 - 2y

Thank you so much 🙇‍♀️🙏 #[1] #[2] #[3] (Didn't know how to tag npubs in markdown) #[0]

undefined
undefined
undefined

35d26 - 2y

Nope, spam filtering has been pretty hands off for the past few weeks. Thanks for the excellent writeup!

undefined
undefined
undefined

35d26 - 2y

And for the record, I was an early bitcoin adopter and then skeptic for years, before getting more excited about it after nostr. So please feel free to have your own opinion of any crypto.

undefined
undefined
undefined

jack @jack - 2y

“notes” is a far better label than “posts”. and more unique to #nostr

undefined
undefined
undefined

87816 - 2y

postr 🤔

undefined
undefined
undefined

29fbc - 2y

Noted

undefined
undefined
undefined

496d3 - 2y

notes & replies 🤔 Pretty

undefined
undefined
undefined

34134 - 2y

“Events” is also a good naming convention. For a protocol being worked on by so many different teams, it’s being constructed very thoughtfully

undefined
undefined
undefined

700d3 - 2y

Notes for short form, but posts for long form.

undefined
undefined
undefined

1833e - 2y

said in a note

undefined
undefined
undefined

Neo ⚡️ @neo - 2y

🤔

undefined
undefined
undefined

f747b - 2y

Posting a note sounds like you are writing a note on a Post-It

undefined
undefined
undefined

Ryan @Ryan - 2y

Postin' notes

undefined
undefined
undefined

80ba3 - 2y

I can write notes without posting them, though. "Post" is a better description of something that has been shared online.

undefined
undefined
undefined

75f45 - 2y

#Notestr

undefined
undefined
undefined

e76f9 - 2y

Noted.

undefined
undefined
undefined

7c579 - 2y

Agreed.

undefined
undefined
undefined

matata @matata - 2y

"you should note that through nostr" it feels a bit unnatural

undefined
undefined
undefined

no₿ody™️🧱 @noBody𓅦🧱 - 2y

Post is the verb, note is the noun Stay humble, post notes

undefined
undefined
undefined

12377 - 2y

Notes capture essence, lasting treasure; posts fleeting, shallow pleasure.

undefined
undefined
undefined

d8f9d - 2y

Eh, I don't like "notes". Too ambiguous with actual note taking

undefined
undefined
undefined

50de4 - 2y

Duly noted.

undefined
undefined
undefined

no₿ody™️🧱 @noBody𓅦🧱 - 2y

#[4]

undefined
undefined
undefined

0da54 - 2y

“nosts” #[2]

undefined
undefined
undefined

jack @jack - 2y

1. Growing artist community. That will grow faster with zaps and the fact we finally have global permissionless payments on the internet. 2. All of this is public elsewhere b 3. Don’t know it. 4. https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr

undefined
undefined
undefined

jb55 @jb55 - 2y

Interviews on #nostr . Great idea! Open everything is the way. #[1]

undefined
undefined
undefined

60aa4 - 2y

Thanks, Jack. I appreciate this. I expect I’ll write up this interview Monday. May come back to you with more Qs in the future when I’ve gone deeper on NOSTR Have a great weekend! —- For anyone else reading this —would appreciate your thoughts on NOSTR’s development and the evolution of the internet

undefined
undefined
undefined

jack @jack - 2y

🫂

undefined
undefined
undefined

72869 - 2y

I'm a cartoon character and won a bet with another cartoon character on here for 0.5 Monero. He didn't pay me for a while so I called him a scammer then he paid me and called me a pussy. It's pretty magical here, I'm a fan.

undefined
undefined
undefined

148d1 - 2y

Well, here’s a legacy thread that you can read that details my position on ethereum / crypto / web3 / NFTs Bitcoin is not Crypto. The revolution will not be premined. https://twitter.com/bradmillscan/status/1499465625223286787

undefined
undefined
undefined

Satow @satow - 2y

#4 🎯

undefined
undefined
undefined

6eea1 - 2y

My $0.02 as no one special - the integration of the frictionless payments network (lighting) in the protocol nostr is truly revolutionary, as P2P exchanges are not tracked nor fees taken from it. Absolutely under appreciated.

undefined
undefined
undefined

0xtr @0xtr - 2y

#[0]​ interviewed #[1]​ live on nostr and wants your thoughts on nostr and it’s future development! Go help him out🤙 #[2]

undefined
undefined
undefined

Aaron Daniel @Aaron Daniel - 2y

Softwar thesis is basically Bitcoin mining is a weapon of defense, and thus protected under the second amendment. Disconnected from the law and dangerous: https://www.bitcoinbrief.io/no-the-second-amendment-doesnt-protect-bitcoin-mining/

undefined
undefined
undefined

eric @eric - 2y

how bout pair programming for damus on nostr?

undefined
undefined
undefined

Modus @Modus - 2y

Nostr demonstrates that "web3" does not need any new tokens or Blockchains. Nostr demonstrates that money can flow to the builders of the web's future rather than to speculators. Nostr is the latest example of monetary and labor resources piling on to one person's open vision for an unstoppable internet protocol. This is not the last time this will happen.

undefined
undefined
undefined

e03b1 - 2y

Que no te lo cuenten, nos vemos en #Nostrasia AMIGA 6.0

undefined
undefined
undefined

nothenry @nothenry - 2y

That would be a cool micro app

undefined
undefined
undefined

04ea5 - 2y

This may not make much sense without context but it has a few helpful links (if you can see the markdown rendered that is) #[3]

undefined
undefined
undefined

eaf1a - 2y

Nice! If you would like some info from us - team developing Plebstr (multiplatform Nostr client) let us know 🤙

undefined
undefined
undefined

2a9c6 - 2y

A few links that demonstrate the potential the Nostr protocol has beyond this initial social media use case. Also a reminder that while Dorsey is arguably the most prominent Nostr user at the moment (Snowden has been inactive lately) the protocol was created by @nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6. Music: https://www.stemstr.app/ https://makers.bolt.fun/story/introducing-zapstr--698 Market: https://makers.bolt.fun/story/introducing-goodstr--682 Zaps (the movement of money in the value4value model): https://zaplife.lol/ Chess: https://jesterui.github.io/ File sharing and pasting: https://sendstr.com/ https://nosbin.com/ Long form content (like Substack): https://habla.news/ Virtual hangout rooms (like Twitter Spaces/Clubhouse) https://nostrnests.com/ These are just some of the usecases that came to mind. There are more I'm forgetting and many more I'm not even aware of. The rate of development remarkable. Oter resources to get a more holistic idea (although still probably not exhaustive): https://www.nostr.net/ https://nostr.com/ https://www.nostrapps.com/ https://nostr.band/ Apps like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, OnlyFans, etc. won't survive unless they leverage Nostr as their backend. The network effects, integration with lightning, and uncensorability of this protocol can't be ignored.

undefined
undefined
undefined

tina @tina - 2y

I'm learning from your questions, Ben. Thank you. I thought Axios would be here first...

undefined
undefined
undefined

9349d - 2y

This open format definitely makes fact-checking easier

undefined
undefined
undefined

e742e - 2y

Open-source, permission-less, and decentralised protocols - most notably Bitcoin for sound money and Nostr for information - are empowering individuals, regardless of background or economic status, across the world. They provide critical checks and balances on the centralising and monopolising tendencies of states (e.g. CBDCs, social credit scores) and large corporations (e.g. deplatforming, anti-free speech).

undefined
undefined
undefined

84eaf - 2y

nip5 is free in many places

undefined
undefined
undefined

04ea5 - 2y

Yeah but I don't like the NIP5 concept much. And if the downside is that only my npub shows up in some clients/ some relays drop my notes as spam it's okay -as you can see i mainly lurk around 😅

undefined
undefined
undefined

74fea - 2y

Substack on nostr was promoted pretty hard on twitter today. Some guy called Elon I think.

undefined
undefined
undefined

3230f - 2y

I’m excited about where this platform can go. I initially came here to learn and read about what’s happening in web3. I am not a dev, and don’t always understand the nuance, but I work in an industry that was impacted by digital assets and could be changed by the growth of ai, laws surrounding cryptocurrency, & web3. There are very few people IRL I can ask about block and fintech that know what they’re talking about. I love the anonymity on nostr and advocate freedom for its users. In time, I do hope the user base grows & I can find chat streams with people outside of tech.

undefined
undefined
undefined

matata @matata - 2y

nice report

undefined
undefined
undefined

72869 - 2y

Question: in what way do you find it easier to fact check here versus twitter?

undefined
undefined
undefined

2f660 - 2y

Good questions & interview, can’t zap you tho?!⚡️😔

undefined
undefined
undefined

04ea5 - 2y

Thank you 🙏🙏

undefined
undefined
undefined

0c3e8 - 2y

This is by far the greatest thing to happen this decade and possibly this century for the general masses. In a matter of months Nostr has gone from something the likes of free speech advocates from early 2020 were told they should build if they wanted to share their conspiracy ideas and wished they had already, to being more advanced and feature rich than a half dozen decades old multibillion dollar social media companies. Not to mention it brings all levels of identity validation, spam mitigation, true user engagement (no algos), seamless commerce, and more to the table in addition.

undefined
undefined
undefined

e417e - 2y

In some ways, we're getting back to the 90s and the early days of the Internet: building protocols that are open and enabling a lot of innovation on top of it. For example, everyone knows error 404 but 402 was there also (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/402). Now, the payments have materialised and are as easy as visiting someone's profile on nostr. It's called zapping or public tips but it can be used for more than tips. Another aspect of the early Internet was the openness to innovation. Everybody could contribute, and the spirit of building, discovery and awe was there. It was a new frontier where a lot of opportunities were possible before the centralisation and silos. A third aspect is more generic but you have a community feel on nostr. And, it's a global village at the moment that is respectful, inspiring and supportive. The fourth one is related to the underlying principles of liberty and openness that are pretty much in question in every part of the world. Johan Norberg's book Open: The Story of Human Progress is a wonderful explainer of this phase and its importance. A few quotes from my review: "There are periods in history where different cultures with different religions, ethnicities and locations had rule of law, rapid economic growth and scientific progress. These upturns were often sudden, unexpected and very expansive with population and income growth... All of them have commonalities that are the basic message of the book: people were open to new and different ideas, innovations, cultures, habits, foreigners, technologies, business models and more importantly to the uncertainty that opening up to something different and strange bring." https://www.petrikajander.com/open-the-story-of-human-progress/ A lot of the frontiers are closed at this point. Space travel is not accessible yet. Metaverse has not really taken off. Invasive wars are a reality now that has set us back almost 100 years. Money printing and all the rest of the troubles in the economies are also making things look grim. nostr and AI are examples of new frontiers that are exciting, full of opportunities and are shaping our future in very unpredictable ways.

undefined
undefined
undefined

09ed4 - 2y

#Nostr and #Lightning⚡will eat the internet

undefined
undefined
undefined
Showing page 1 of 1 pages