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iefan 🕊️ @iefan 🕊️ - 2y

What Israel experienced for a few hours (which was of course horrifying), Palestinians have been enduring for 75 years since the Nakba. You can't achieve peace if one side is essentially living under apartheid, and telling the those people to maintain the status quo is inhumane.

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bitcoinaz @bitcoinaz - 2y

Just another battle in the same old war that never ended.

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Hans Karlsborn @Hans Karlsborn - 2y

Go fuck yourself

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goodzilla @goodzilla - 2y

100% agreed! You can not bomb Hamas away. You have to resolve the underlying issues. Many of it is being showed on the maps.

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iefan 🕊️ @iefan 🕊️ - 2y

Without any disrespect, I believe that a significant portion of what you just mentioned isn't accurate. How can we pursue a two-state solution when Israel has been constructing settlements in the West Bank, which are clearly illegal under international law? Am I overlooking something here? You mentioned terrorism, and many people argue that Israel's continuous bombings in Gaza and its ongoing occupation of Palestinian territories could be seen as a form of terrorism. Thi is evident in that picture above. Even if we assume everything you've said is true, it still doesn't justify apartheid unless you're framing it as some kind of holy war.

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iefan 🕊️ @iefan 🕊️ - 2y

These are the kids who died this year, on the top right corner kid with orange hoodie, his name is Mohammed Tamimi, he was 3 year old. It was before this "war"

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Hans Karlsborn @Hans Karlsborn - 2y

Just go fuck yourself you useless shit. 💩

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Hans Karlsborn @Hans Karlsborn - 2y

https://x.com/therealmissjo/status/1710918580034805886?s=46&t=-Ks4q52A7vJzQnCci96yHw

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goodzilla @goodzilla - 2y

How can you misread everything above and come to such stupid comment? Resolving issue means diplomacy and finding a real and sustainable solution for peace and prosperity for all (Israel's + Palestinians)!

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iefan 🕊️ @iefan 🕊️ - 2y

You're usually very open to discussion, but I understand that some issues are more sensitive than others. One day, we may find a common ground.

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Hans Karlsborn @Hans Karlsborn - 2y

Go Fuck yourself. You’ve shown exactly who You are.

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Leo Fernevak @Leo Fernevak - 2y

The region has a long and complex history. From early Persian kings, Alexander the Great, Ottomans, later UK claims, Balfour declaration, WW2, and then partitions after the second world war. Add historical claims to the list. The borders that were drawn up after WW2 left millons of people without a homeland.

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Leo Fernevak @Leo Fernevak - 2y

As I outlined above, the history of the area is not a rainbow unicorn story. The Persian kings conquered neighboring tribes. The Greeks under Alexander the Great conquered Persian cities. Later the Romans governed the area, under which Jews lived in Judea under Roman laws. Yet later the Ottomans gained control, and so forth. The partitions after WW2 was a centrally planned allocation of land that ended up causing millions of people to not have an official homeland. Whatever we think of historical or military claims to the region, cultural roots and religious roots, the WW2 partitioning borders have left deep conflicts in the area that are not easily solved.

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iefan 🕊️ @iefan 🕊️ - 2y

I don't think it's an excuse; it's a reason, at least according to them. Now the question is, is it justified? Absolutely not. Civilians should not be harmed; it's one of the most hideous war crimes. It must be respected. You mentioned that 6 million Jews died, and I certainly believe the Holocaust happened. But how does that justify the current ethnic cleansing, which is very visible in these maps?

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34134 - 2y

Lol the propaganda got you good

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34134 - 2y

Yes

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iefan 🕊️ @iefan 🕊️ - 2y

I don't think there is any Palestinian state right now, even after the Oslo Accord. PLO didn't have any jurisdiction over air, water, or borders on "palestinian territories". You probably know that. And Israel also doesn't want the PLO to end; they will never grant Palestinians voting and other rights. They have said that loud and clear.

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34134 - 2y

I’ve never heard a single Zionist talking point that made any sense at all to a rational mind. Zionism is like abortion. It only makes sense if you’ve internalized the premise that you are being persecuted by the entire world and all times, so then you can convince yourself that killing innocent lives is justified.

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34134 - 2y

You believe killing innocent people and taking their land is justified because you’ve swallowed a persecution story your entire life. There’s no reasoning with you, because your mind is in a permanent state of emergency thanks to a century of successful propaganda.

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34134 - 2y

Ad hominem attacks are the last refuge of someone whose arguments are shitty

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00000 - 2y

The sad thing is the collective west support this shit!

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d3f2d - 2y

Go read a book bro lol

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