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jb55 @jb55 - 4mo

Nostr Android Performance Showdown Damus vs. Amethyst vs. Primal Which app is the fastest on a $100 android phone? https://jb55.com/s/android-perf-test.mp4

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Uno @Uno - 4mo

I love this, make Nostr useable for anyone!

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jb55 @jb55 - 4mo

I can do it in reverse order

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 4mo

Maybe, but I greatly appreciate that he's making performance a topic.

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jb55 @jb55 - 4mo

also damus android performance doesn't really change depending on whats being loaded. its completely independent from ui. once the data comes off the nostrdb subscription it is fully parsed and ready for rendering.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 4mo

Yeah, there's a lot that can be tweaked, under the hood. We're definitely watching your work and taking notes. 🫡

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jb55 @jb55 - 4mo

I don’t know, i just built a client from the ground up based on all the lessons i learned and mistakes i made on the iOS side.

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jb55 @jb55 - 4mo

I’m targeting end of month for alpha!

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 4mo

I see to much lazy design, inefficient workflows and unimaginative boolean algebra all over the place, to co-sign that. Once we clear out all of that, what we have left, is the 10%.

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Braydon Fuller @Braydon Fuller - 4mo

Damus Notedeck was the fastest with egui and Rust, pretty interesting. Might be something to immediate mode!? nostr:nevent1qqs0t8a7qsnk8yc5smlpuc98e5anxvrk048f8f6nap2f8zzfxjvqqjgpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3qxtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsxpqqqqqqzeupvz3

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Braydon Fuller @Braydon Fuller - 4mo

This might have convinced me to try Rust with immediate mode of egui.

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jb55 @jb55 - 4mo

Still very early days. This might be the first complex egui mobile app. Lots of warts to patch over in terms of system integrations

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 4mo

You underestimate how many of us want to use it, but can't, due to performance issues. It can be so frustrating. I've installed and uninstalled it, at least 4 times. But, that's okay. I have my own devs to nag, now.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 4mo

Aargh! But it drives me nuts, cuz you have Citrine and Amber and could be a real performance monster, without crimping the feature set. 😂 🙈 Okay, okay, I'll stop whining.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 4mo

I've tried Voyage, but it sacrifices too many features to compete with Amethyst. I bet you could tie more performance improvements into the low-data mode and let people opt-in to it. I don't use the DMs, for instance. The once per day, that I check them, I can manually trigger the fetch. I actually bought a new phone, just to use Amethyst, and then I got crushed by spotty mobile Internet. Tighter integration with Citrine and automatic network diagnosis could potentially make moving in and out of the connections seamless.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 4mo

Ah, but you're thinking of performance as merely being speed. There are different aspects, like reduced bandwidth usage, computation minimization, constancy, etc. What Citrine can do is smooth out fluctuations in the connection strength. If you were background-downloading into Citrine, while in a fast connection, and then pulling from it, when the connection faltered, then the user wouldn't even notice the fluctuation. He'd just scroll up and see the next post. Scroll up again, see another next post...

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jb55 @jb55 - 4mo

whats voyage

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 4mo

Also, opening Amethyst could trigger a mass-download from lots of relays into Citrine, and then Amethyst could just look to Citrine first, after that.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 4mo

https://github.com/dluvian/voyage

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 4mo

You grossly underestimate how crappy my Internet sometimes is. 🙈

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jb55 @jb55 - 4mo

? notedeck will load unknown ids in a debounced manner. no outbox yet though.

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