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Cameri @Cameri - 3y

To Native Nostr App Developers: If you are making a Nostr native app and you ask me to type my private key in, it will not happen. Damus is the only one I’d give the benefit of the doubt and that’s because I trust William won’t knee-cap Nostr by leaking everyone’s private key. Please consider implementing Keychain support on iOS or work on a simple Nos2x native app.

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c49f8 - 3y

Keychain is a brilliant idea

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c060b - 3y

ELI5 keychain

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The Conscious Contrarian @arcticorangutan - 3y

Can you elaborate on the difference between logging in with one’s pub key vs both pub and private keys? Is it that you can read but not write without the private key?

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 3y

💯 And Damus recognizes your iOS keychain for filling in your key. I have a couple of keys saved in my keychain and use that to switch accounts quickly.

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Cameri @Cameri - 3y

Yup, we need native apps to raise the bar and stop this recklessness xD

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 3y

💯🔥

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dr. calle 👁️⚡👁️ @calle - 3y

Does that mean damus doesn't have access to that key? I don't think so. Keychain is only going to save you from copy/pasting it but not from your key leaking.

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c369f - 3y

That’s above my pay grade.

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30a15 - 3y

Precisely this. The private keys provides the signature to sign the notes.

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7560e - 3y

iPhone even has hardware separation for keys. It’s called Secure Enclave, I’ve mentioned it before to mixed response. It means that even application processor kernel root kits cannot access your keys. There is even a dedicated Secure Enclave boot ROM that initialises a memory protection engine. I have no idea why they made this, but they did and it’s not really publicised much. https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec59b0b31ff/web

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3b76e - 3y

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jb55 @jb55 - 3y

What do you mean keychain support? Damus stores the nsec in your keychain

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c7063 - 3y

Having the key stored on iOS Native app is much better than storing the key on browser. I think slowly delegated signing will take over..!

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 3y

Correct and good point. It’s just a quicker way of entering the nsec without having to manually copy/paste or type it.

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b1da0 - 3y

I udnerstand you, lack of documentation in all clients, also to audit them, for beginners is so hard. Since people are mining their pubkeys, it is logical they dont' trust those apps in order to proyect their mined keys. By the way most clients doesn't work on old machines that is why begginers we are using web clients ...

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ec162 - 3y

I think he means: integrate with iOS’ password manager. Treat the nostr public key as the username and private key as password ⇒ tada!

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ee9aa - 3y

Unfortunately the Secure Enclave only supports secp256r1/NIST P-256 signing algorithm, not the secp256k1 ECDSA algorithm used by Nostr.

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Cameri @Cameri - 3y

Yup I know, I mean other native apps that are coming up asking me to type my private key on their app. Either their account creation doesn’t work or they only let me type a private key… either way I just end up uninstalling them because of that. On-boarding experience is key 🔑

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7560e - 3y

🤔 Ah that is unfortunate, it sounds like it was developed for something quite specific. Alternatively, Nostore is a safari extension for managing nostr keys.

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c02be - 3y

Add a 2FA to the nsec. At least you still have control if they are leaked

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xiangcai @xiangcai - 3y

so what does plebstr do with our private key pls?

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ca4ef - 3y

Stored in keychain? That’s cool. So it’s not stored in the app itself? What if you have two Apple devices with the same Apple ID but different Damus key pairs? Are they saved as separate entries in keychain?

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