Derek Ross @Derek Ross - 3y
The Mute feature: A user's freedom tool. What is muting on Nostr? Different clients will refer to this as muting or blocking, but the end result is the same. It's a personal content filter, allowing the user to regain their personal freedoms. If you don't want to see a user or a user's content, you can mute or block them. It's highly effective. The best part? The freedoms of the person that was muted or blocked are not impacted at all! They have the freedom and ability to continue to post, reply, and carry on just as they previously were doing. Win/win. This is the freedom to communicate that Nostr empowers us with. Enjoy!
f4d89 - 3y
Quite useful on global and for spammers
3c906 - 3y
Mute > Block
They are essentially the same thing on Nostr.
e9b30 - 3y
That is not enough for Twitter users. They will only want Mass Relay-blocking like Mastodon
d030b - 3y
Nice feature without actually interfering other peoples freedom
410fa - 3y
THANK YOU !
6e577 - 3y
But will the relays catch on and stop serving user that are widely blocked?
9936a - 3y
Thank you for your service.
3473e - 3y
wen can we use others mutes? so we can gangbang spam
Even if that would happen, the user is free to move around to as many relays as they choose, playing whack-a-mole, with censorship. This is now nostr stays censorship resistant. If a relay would block someone, they can move elsewhere or even run their own relay.
block is not the right description but app stores forced iris and damus to call it block, we could have a surpress notifications option which is really mute
I don't think a mute/block list passed around relays is good, but I don't see any harm in a public mute/block list on someone's profile, similar to follow lists. In fact, I think making blocks and mutes public is key. It's very transparent.
depending on the client that you're using, you may be able to see this already.
cdf07 - 3y
Yeah. I can imagine a block list being like how I was banned from Twitter with no recourse because no human will bother to even review the situation. My wife was banned for JOKING to stab me in my sleep for posting a boob meme, and then a month later when she logged into my account on her phone I was banned under the evading suspension policy. Multiple attempts to explain, but I just got the same for response. A block list would be the same on big relays. No man power or motivation to look into the justness of any decision.
3fe1d - 3y
freedom of cum does not mean freedom from consequences tbh
d940b - 3y
Only it’s trivial to post on a new account instantly
Will be challenging to create effective anti spams to avoid spamming by new accounts. Some sort of npub reputation, by age and follower network, which is a how I check for bots on Twitter
19890 - 3y
When you block someone on Nostr, what is technically happening? Are you basically just purging your feed of that person's content, responses, etc? If so, I quite like that idea... leaving the trolls simply screaming into the void with no response.
c4776 - 3y
Satoshi tracks them down and puts a bag over their head.
koby @koby - 3y
You get a pop up says blocked user on yours or others notes. You can view it my clicking on the banner.
Shawn⚡️ @shawn - 3y
Essentially. Their notes (and other stuff) are filtered out at the client level.
c4f5e - 3y
🎯
6182e - 3y
Yes, it’s client side filtering.
signal_and_rage ☕️ @signal_and_rage ☕️ - 3y
🙈
corndalorian @corndalorian - 3y
#[2]
eb639 - 3y
Jack has a sit down conversation with them and the person learns where he went wrong and grows emotionally and spiritually.
The Daniel ⚡️ and 84 sats @daniel - 3y
Really, you’re just putting a bag over your own head so you don’t see them.
5dedc - 3y
Correct
There are block or mute buttons, depending on the client.
04918 - 3y
Think he means it's just a mute as there is no way to stop others from seeing your posts or responding to them you just won't see it.
https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/183 Also publishes your mute list as an event so if you use another client they are mutted there as well if they support it.
f8c01 - 3y
what's stopping me from just logging out and making some new keys if i really hated you?
Nothing
Luigi @Luigi - 3y
Yep, that’s pretty much what happens—which is great
However if you only listen to global on paid relays. You would have to pay to have the new account whitelisted. So there is some cost there at least.
4ac73 - 3y
+1
Event Kind 44 covers mutes, but I'm not completely clear on how mute/block lists are stored. https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/28.md#kind-44-mute-user
ea8a8 - 3y
In nostr, you (your client, to be accurate) decide what you see. Any filtering you can imagine can be applied. Obviously, if you don't know how to code it yourself, you'll need someone to do it for you. But you always have the option of being in control. I can see a future where some clients, like Damus and Amethyst, come with pretty good defaults + some simple but helpful config options for this. This enables people to have a good experience without having to put much thought into it. On the other side of the spectrum, you will have highly customizable but highly complex clients that will look more like a query engine than a user app. Those will enable any kind of weird filtering you could picture, but will take skill to use. Most won't need them and won't touch them. Just my 2 sats.
8ecc5 - 3y
you say this like it's innovative
