Nostr View - Telling end users to fork a Nostr client over any

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 2y

Telling end users to fork a Nostr client over any feature they don’t like is unrealistic advice. https://cdn.nostr.build/i/57e78d1f648e0e29c4b8c8e39cce68bfc263f526bf39d482939813ef24ce7140.jpg

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The Fockin’ Fury @TheFockinFury - 2y

That Paris Hilton meme in this context is fucking 🎯 🎯 🎯

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Ryan @Ryan - 2y

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 2y

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 2y

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 2y

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Ryan @Ryan - 2y

On one hand "we need to make it easy for new users" On the other hand, when a user points out some major failures "just fork the code lol"

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e6ce6 - 2y

It was every nonsense I had to read today.

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Derek Ross @Derek Ross - 2y

I love how this meme is always your passive aggressive choice 🤣

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 2y

“Hey that wheel isn’t bolted on tight and is about to fall off…” “Lmao shut up idiot and go build your own car.”

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 2y

It fits in so many contexts 😂

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Derek Ross @Derek Ross - 2y

The beauty of open source software DOES give us the freedom to just fork the software and build the experience that you wish to have. However, that doesn't mean that we need to throw user experience out the window either. https://media.tenor.com/yiy3MKjtJvoAAAAd/i-fight-for-the-users-tron-legacy.gif nostr:nevent1qqsd0k0352pre50pwds7380lzza9dz3rppk362w9yy7psvke4szsvucpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsyg8cumryxsh3upfysp3suflpq9kuud0u8fs5uczrflh54gjsxv5v4ypsgqqqqqqs4q4esq

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PABLOF7z @PABLOF7z - 2y

I know this is tongue-in-cheek, but still: it's not that "just be a dev", the "it's open source, if you don't like it, fork it" is valid advice because it doesn't need to be every person who disagrees with a decision that needs to create a fork; it's just one. when a bunch of people disagreed with the direction Vitor was taking Amethyst, we didn't need a fork per disagreeing person, just one person, nostr:npub1t0nyg64g5vwprva52wlcmt7fkdr07v5dr7s35raq9g0xgc0k4xcsedjgqv, to do it. All the people who disagreed with Vitor could move to that fork. The same thing here, if enough people like Primal but not the direction is heading towards, a single person motivated enough can act and benefit all the people who disagree with Primal. Again, I know this is largely tongue-in-cheek, but I think it's worth pointing this out 😀

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Derek Ross @Derek Ross - 2y

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Derek Ross @Derek Ross - 2y

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Derek Ross @Derek Ross - 2y

Fartstr probably allows Eth tips.

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utxo ⚡🫂 @utxo ⚡🫂 - 2y

Wait not everyone knows how to code? 🤔

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 2y

Agreed and I am happy that so many Nostr projects are open source. But for most users, myself included, the freedom to do so does not mean we have the ability to do so. I’m technical and can figure out a lot of things, but I can’t code, so I can’t just fork something and add features myself.

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node @node - 2y

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 2y

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Derek Ross @Derek Ross - 2y

I believe most devs care about what their users want and would implement changes, if applicable, if enough users wanted it. We just need to have these discussions. Additionally, we need to incentivize them via bounties for features. They like to eat too. I wish this became more of a standard. If you want something, you create a GitHub issue and offer a bounty for it.

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Derek Ross @Derek Ross - 2y

While that client will exist, and I hope that it does as it will show the openness of the protocol, I don't have to use it or associate with people that do.

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Aaron Daniel @Aaron Daniel - 2y

What might accelerate client forks and development is a system that allows non-technical users to incentivize desired changes or fixes. I proposed a nostr-based bounty board where non-technical users could post bounties for features they'd like to see, and neutral developers would review whether those features had been properly implemented before payout. nostr:nevent1qqs80vrulquc9d7ppf2y9nvnu3990wp983xczf5y27x3fsgyexaewaspz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3q6zxfxy5ltnp992gp006jlyy9qc93qanzpfvv66fznvc7xul0ej0sxpqqqqqqzkey8fn nostr:nevent1qqsd0k0352pre50pwds7380lzza9dz3rppk362w9yy7psvke4szsvucpy3mhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgcjuum0w46xsenvdaexjerp9ehxjmn2vyhsyg8cumryxsh3upfysp3suflpq9kuud0u8fs5uczrflh54gjsxv5v4ypsgqqqqqqsh7mhau

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 2y

Bounties can work, and it’s great when they do. I’m not sure the best approach when it comes to the topic of poorly implemented algorithmic feeds, such as with Primal. Discoverability of people and content has been one of Primal’s selling points so I can understand what they wouldn’t want to get rid of it. But because it has become a popular client, people are now incentivized to manipulate the algorithm. Other users that take notice and expose it are then deemed the bad guy because “reasons.” But this issue eventually extends beyond just Primal. Damus is adding suggested follows. Plebstr has had suggested follows for some time. Nostur has an “explore” tab. Nostr.band has their trending feeds. The lack of algorithmic manipulation has been a huge positive for users on Nostr, especially those coming from Twitter. I would love to see devs make this a higher priority issue. Clearly algorithmic feeds are going to happen one way or another. It would be incredible to see Nostr devs take a cooperative approach to solving the issues surrounding them. We have absolutely incredible devs working on these apps, and I can only imagine what they could come up with if they did.

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corndalorian @corndalorian - 2y

It’s a valid point.

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