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As many of you know, I've been back in IT work, after a decade-long baby break and a 3-year logistics apprenticeship, and I'm starting to feel almost-competent again. This is everything I needed to learn, or relearn, in order to know WTF is going on. nostr:naddr1qvzqqqr4gupzphtxf40yq9jr82xdd8cqtts5szqyx5tcndvaukhsvfmduetr85ceqqxnzde38ycnydpsx56nxd3ctk2cv7

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

And then I'd sit them down at a computer, with an IDE open, and ask them to write and execute a program that prints "Hello World" five times. Give them 10 minutes and no googling or AI.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

I know that sounds really easy, but I bet some of the candidates wouldn't be able to do it.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

Original list was longer, but I like round-numbered lists, so I deleted stuff. Autistic moment! 😂

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

The entire list sounds pretty easy, actually, but I doubt you'll find anyone doing the job already, who can answer all of those questions competently. Most probably can't even really explain what agile is, but they're making 6-figures to sit around a brown table and bitch about how stupid the programmers are. Source: Every business analyst I encounter IRL that wasn't formerly a test automator, dev, sys admin or similar.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

End rant.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

If you can find someone who also understands project management, corporate accounting and tax laws, customer service practices, documentation, and marketing... Hire them on the spot.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

We had someone apply to be a DBA once, and we handed them a piece of paper and a pencil and asked them to write SQL to connect all of the entries in the table Students with the appropriate entries in the table Grades, and explain to us what would happen, if some students had no grades. And they couldn't do it and got upset and left.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

Ha ha! Just realized that you'd probably get some people writing five print statements. Maybe up it to 50. 😂

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

🤣🤣🤣

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

Yeah, they all love the regular reviews and increments. Let me check up on y'all shadowy supercoders, and give me something to click. 😂 We had reviews and quick releases BEFORE agile, people. 🤦‍♀️

mleku ✝Ⓐ☯︎ @mleku - 5mo

in my first session with my young colleague, fresh out of CS at Berkeley he wrote a greeter that asks for a name and then does this hilarious amnesia thing after using it, was funny he annoys me sometimes but he's good

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

😂

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

I bet a lot of analyst candidates would be like "What is an IDE?" I'm completely shocked, by the stuff I've experienced, and I'm hearing horror stories from other people, including from major engineering firms. People with IT certifications or even CS degrees who can't manage Hello World... is a thing.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

Nobody expects an analyst to be a good programmer, but we should expect them to be able to use the basic tools, write a simple program or some easy SQL statements or a flowchart, write a well-structured bug report or change request, etc. Otherwise, they will literally have no clue what anyone is talking about at the daily and you need to ask yourself what you need them for.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

I meant those who are applying to be a BA for a software team. Although, I find it difficult to imagine why anyone would bother getting into IT without even trying to program one time.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

I'd probably ask you to write a simple bash script.

mleku ✝Ⓐ☯︎ @mleku - 5mo

i think that the most important baseline skill for anyone working with IT should be: can you search a filesystem for files with a given extension, sort them in descending order and output the parent directory name, and then append a string to each one, and then create an empty file with this name in the current working directory? this requires grep, sort, cut, sed and xargs, an understanding of pipes, ultra basic regex, and i could have done this for you back in 1995 - stuff i learned by using man on a free dialin shell account

mleku ✝Ⓐ☯︎ @mleku - 5mo

oh i forgot it includes the basic use of find as well

mleku ✝Ⓐ☯︎ @mleku - 5mo

and yes of course performing the test you are allowed to use --help and man

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

Oh, yeah, that sounds good. 👀 And regex would be good for BAs, too. Need that, constantly. And maybe spreadsheets.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

You're a writer, too, Mleku. Have you ever thought about writing something like "Introduction to Nostr System Administration and Relay Management"?

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

As a set of articles joined in a collection, like I'm doing. Writing down a list of everything you want to cover and then slogging through it, when you're bored.

mleku ✝Ⓐ☯︎ @mleku - 5mo

it's a tough question because i am good at writing, btw, if you want to see how i write training documentation https://github.com/quanterall/kitchensink - in case i never dropped that on you it took me about 3 weeks to put that together, but i've already had one feedback on it, finally, that afterwards they felt very confident in working with Go and writing gRPC/Protobuf API code and concurrency the thing is, i think that my skills at writing codecs and clean, fast concurrency are more valuable to the community... hahah... when i actually get around to releasing something i'm sure that fiatjaf at least by now has poked at my stuff at least once or twice and can see that i know my stuff... anyhow... too busy to document, writing code!

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

Got it. Guess I'm more motivated because I want to create realistic and complex test material for our new event kinds.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 5mo

https://github.com/quanterall/kitchensink 👀 Introduction to #golang #devs nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqnyqqft6tz9g9pyaqjvp0s4a4tvcfvj6gkke7mddvmj86w68uwe0qqsrjayhgjtwzzvfgqazls9jeatq2m49ulr9ldl5u4fp46lq0tgdl8gq83tdv

mleku ✝Ⓐ☯︎ @mleku - 5mo

it's often considered an insult to say that those who can, do, those who can't, teach, but we need teachers, and it's not true that they can't do, usually they can, just not better than MVP, and if you are good at writing and have hyperactive, touch trained fingers then we need that also, i'm not sure how to express how important good documentation is my first experience with computers came through the Tandy Radio Shack Color Computer and the two big fat manuals teaching how to write code in Color Basic and Extended Color Basic were such beautiful things that i got so good at it i started building a whole GUI engine at one point, before i was even 10 years old

mleku ✝Ⓐ☯︎ @mleku - 5mo

yes, i wrote it in the hope that my boss would actually hire some juniors who i could get to do some bigger project work together with them but all the jobs he fielded for me were with shady shitcoin companies and all the shitcoins switched to #rust including Cosmos, who had up to that point been #golang only

mleku ✝Ⓐ☯︎ @mleku - 5mo

btw ... i think that tripod doesn't exist anymore maybe because i didn't see the original but i also wrote this back in 2003 https://www.scribd.com/document/38785616/acacia1dmtextraction

mleku ✝Ⓐ☯︎ @mleku - 5mo

hilarious, incredible how long that document was online for i made some nice CSS for the tables in it and stuff haha

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