Nostr View

The Nostr trending algo works backward to Twitter. It nudges you to talk only about Nostr and Bitcoin, or to post platitudes, famous quotes, sexy pics, and heart-warming pictures of nature and food. It's an anti-intellectual algo. An anti-literary algo. An anti-contemplation algo. Any original, complex, or unsettling thought gets buried 6 feet down and a pile of GMs gets poured on top, to seal it in.

Vic @Vic - 8mo

I agree with this... for now. But I suspect this will gradually change over time as people use nostr in new ways, and people apply their own signal/noise algos

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

You have to remember that most users don't follow that many npubs, so their feed is mostly just a top-ten list and they scroll through the trending lists.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

Any client with a trending list, but mostly Primal.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

Nostr: Where we never say anything interesting, so that people like us.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

Twitter trends at least change topic. 😂

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

Not really. The trending list is also based upon human recommendations. This will always face the problem that humans will shy away from reposting or recommending anything too edgy, deep, or controversial, even if that's what they prefer to read themselves.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

I'm not complaining I can't trend. I trend regularly. Here's the fastest way for me to trend: Post a pretty picture of food. Post a pretty nature picture. Remind people to stack sats. Post a selfie of my face, preferably without makeup or filters and facing the light.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

Upvotes don't really count toward trending. Just replies and reposts. Maybe zaps. And only replies in the first level, which is why bland things trend: they have lots of replies and the replies aren't nested because there is no interaction between the repliers.

Dan Wedge @WedgeSocial - 8mo

Theres 10k of us here we have nostr, bitcoin, and maybe 2 other interests right now. What else would the topic be? Besides this is a public square where tomatoes are tossed. not a Paris salon or nor Plato’s republic

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

You just told me how limited your own feed is. 🤷‍♀️

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

The algos specifically exclude deeper conversations.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

Whatever. It's more about watching interesting people chat, than specifically about a topic.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

It's ironic that Nostr is "technically" censorship-resistant because people are "practically" reluctant to post anything controversial or personal. It might as well just be GM bots and meme bots and anime bots. Dead Nostr.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

Yeah, nobody wants to be seen zapping something someone else might not like. Conformity without end, enforced by social pressure.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

LOL I'm living rent-free in this guy's head.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

Whichever one Band and Primal are using (Freerse uses Primal, I think). They get very similar results, so the logic is probably similar.

node @node - 8mo

I always see your notes. It would be nicr to have lists though

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

Prove it by posting someplace else.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

Reverse-engineering based upon results.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

We need to end the mild admonishing the mild to be milder.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

Perhaps we really can come up with something "better", that doesn't merely list the things everyone has already seen, but that aids discovery of interesting conversations. This is merely a statistical problem. We will think about it. 🤔

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

I think nostr:nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2ap0qyfhwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnxxaazu6t09uq35amnwvaz7tms09exzmtfvshxv6tpw34xze3wvdhk6tcqyrafsj7hmweg9ur7zmn6apajdg48hxuskujx53rhrux0ttjcqx84y2yrw28 and nostr:nprofile1qydhwumn8ghj7argv4nx7un9wd6zumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcprfmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuargv4ekzmt9vdshgtnfduhszythwden5te0dehhxarj9emkjmn99uq3vamnwvaz7t69v3jkutnwdaehgu3wd3skuep0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qg5waehxw309aex2mrp09skymr99ehhyee0qqsfnw64j8y3zesqlpz3qlf3lx6eutmu0cy6rluq96z0r4pa54tu5eq974x04 are already working on it. Can they be in on the bounty?

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

No, most people look at trending, is what I assume. Some of the clients have it really prominent. But if trending just looks like what their feed would look like anyway.... 🤷‍♀️ Who isn't following Jack, Gigi, Lyn, Odell, Calle, and Carla, or having their content reposted ad nauseum in their feed? The trending list seems to mostly be a condensing of our feeds, so that each post only appears once, rather than 58 times. 😂 So, that is value added.

Laeserin @Laeserin - 8mo

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