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PABLOF7z @PABLOF7z - 2y

NIP-95 is a terrible idea

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psic4t @psic4t - 2y

Why? Seems pretty neat to me.

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99bb5 - 2y

I don't know. Maybe we should have dedicated file storage relays? Would it still be a terrible idea? What's a better idea?

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The Fishcake🐶🐾 & 763 others @The Fishcake🐶🐾 - 2y

Yes, still a bad idea. Unless you run and dedicated relay for documents in a limited corporate environment, this has major scaling drawbacks that are not even worth dancing around! 🐶🐾🫡

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The Fishcake🐶🐾 & 763 others @The Fishcake🐶🐾 - 2y

And of course, there are legal implications, etc. 🐶🐾🫡

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JeffG @JeffG - 2y

💯 So many better ways to solve that problem than shoehorning binary files into relays.

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PABLOF7z @PABLOF7z - 2y

shut up and take my jpeg!

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gek @gek - 2y

This! Treat it separately. Heavy duty relays. Need to figure out options for economic models.

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8e432 - 2y

Yes 😂

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Русский бот @mikedilger - 2y

IMHO WebDAV with a few extensions handled in the HTTP headers is what we need. We don't need an online held-open protocol, a stateless request-response is sufficient. The WebDAV PROPFIND/PROPATCH being in XML is dumb but usable for applying tags, and HTTP headers for certain things like 'content-type', 'range', etc, all well specified already. We would want to be able to authenticate and to set/specify permissions (on get, put, patch, delete, but also rename, setperms, lock, delete a prop)

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PABLOF7z @PABLOF7z - 2y

you mean... NosDav? nosdav.com 😉 nostr:npub1melv683fw6n2mvhl5h6dhqd8mqfv3wmxnz4qph83ua4dk4006ezsrt5c24

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Русский бот @mikedilger - 2y

What? It's already done?!

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PABLOF7z @PABLOF7z - 2y

of course it is, this is nostr! 😂 zapstr.live uses this for paid tracks I have a modified nosdav server listening for zaps on paid tracks; when the right zapper zaps the track, the pubkey is whitelisted for downloads of that event's media

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phil @phil - 2y

I do believe we need a better solution for decentralised file hosting. While the current media hosts are probably suitable for most general use, we lose a lot content if one is shut down. I don’t think encoding binary content on the relays is the best solution though. I think some relay operators may look to block this either due to bandwidth/storage or legal concerns.

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Русский бот @mikedilger - 2y

Holy fuck, and it has a spec, NAVs, and it actually looks like what I was thinking except it's been actually thought out. I should have known I wouldn't be the first person to think of that.

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PABLOF7z @PABLOF7z - 2y

nostr:npub1melv683fw6n2mvhl5h6dhqd8mqfv3wmxnz4qph83ua4dk4006ezsrt5c24 has thought about everything we will think in the next five years

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PABLOF7z @PABLOF7z - 2y

nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s already has I will tighten my relays rules to prevent this

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d3411 - 2y

我在不久前曾经讨论过【存储sRelay】来搭建WEB3存储，其实开启了 #NIP95 能接受文件的Relays就接近了。 想了一下，只要NIP95不是强制各Relay必须实施的，且大多Relay因开启成本较高而未开启，那么就问题不大。可以拓展 #Nostr 的应用场景。整体来说应该算是好事儿 #8Nostr 不必太恐慌。 lightning:[email protected] 🐇ᥬ[🐕]᭄🌿 nostr:nevent1qqsqsam378a8gpph4xk6v6jga973m3u7senely67j04l7gkred4vsggpr9mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68y6trdqhxcctwvspzp56pzqrq0q3n0jyxflmkxgdgy8edh08mpwense93e3y8z24asj5qqvzqqqqqqyt4j253

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Русский бот @mikedilger - 2y

I gotta zap that bastard

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Русский бот @mikedilger - 2y

If I had paid more attention instead of being head down in my own project, I would have already known.

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PABLOF7z @PABLOF7z - 2y

if someone had already started nostr optech it would be easier to keep up 😅

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melvincarvalho @Melvin Carvalho - 2y

- JSON instead of XML - done - stateless request - done - http headers - done - range requests - todo - GET - yes - PUT - yes - DELETE - todo - auth - done - patch - interesting one, which to use, I think maybe json patch or linked objects, or n3 patch - lock - todo - setperms - partially done, more todo - access control - todo Basically cherry picked the best things from : https://solid.mit.edu/

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Русский бот @mikedilger - 2y

Nice. Glad it's JSON not XML. I meant PATCH as in the HTTP verb. Tried to zap you but Wallet of Satoshi told me there was some problem with the LNURL Solid is Tim Berners-Lee right? Haven't heard that for a while.

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Русский бот @mikedilger - 2y

Now I see you on the solid.mit.edu page. 👍

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melvincarvalho @Melvin Carvalho - 2y

Yes, I worked with TimBL on it, for quite a while and it's becoming a w3c REC hopefully in the next 1-2 years, but it's not yet stable. Nostr is stable, working today, so I can port the best parts over to nostr.

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Русский бот @mikedilger - 2y

Only the best for nostr. 😁

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Русский бот @mikedilger - 2y

Somehow I thought HTTP PATCH was well defined, like byte offsets into a binary blob or something.[1] I don't know why we would need PATCH. nostr:npub1melv683fw6n2mvhl5h6dhqd8mqfv3wmxnz4qph83ua4dk4006ezsrt5c24 [1] This is the first time I said something stupid on nostr.[2] [2] Please don't double check.

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melvincarvalho @Melvin Carvalho - 2y

Patch is useful to send less over the wire and for rapidly changing documents, also for large documents Solid went for n3 patches which are adding or deleting items associated with a URI, which is the linked data way JSON Patch is based on Json paths and trees Linked Objects is a simpler version that ties values to uris An important aspect of patch is that the data in a file is not the same as a filename, and can contain many things or concepts. So patching a file is closely coupled to the transport, patching the data is transport agnostic, and therefore, more decentralized.

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00033 - 2y

What the fuck am I doing in between all these geniuses??

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