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b9e76 - 2y

Made a comment on some Twitter thing today and got a bunch of angry responses about how me being a leftie is what's destroying this country. 😂 There's something increasingly funny about how ridiculous the left/right ideology has become.

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Tracy @Tracy - 2y

Ahhh, the days of twitter... #GuillotineClub

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The Fockin’ Fury @TheFockinFury - 2y

But BiTcOin iS inComPatiBle wItH LefTisT iDeOLogY

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f4d89 - 2y

Tough to looks outside the paradigm if you only know that world

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AK @AK - 2y

Who could have predicted brain damage becoming so popular 😅

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Jeff Swann @Jeff Swann - 2y

Well, it mostly is, but that doesn't mean people on the right aren't retarded a lot of the time too.

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liminal @liminal - 2y

Wondering at what level this kind of behavior originates from https://consilienceproject.org/its-a-mad-information-war/

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Hans Karlsborn @Hans Karlsborn - 2y

It is.

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YEGHRO @YEGHRO - 2y

You're a lefty?! For Shame!

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6389b - 2y

Stop going there. For your own mental wellbeing, Guy.

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Strider @Strider - 2y

Delete twitter

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The Daniel ⚡️ @daniel - 2y

Xitter is destroying the country.

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b9e76 - 2y

I actually feel more disconnected from it than I have in the past. I feel like my real place is on #nostr now, and I just go back to Twitter to see what’s become of it. It’s like a morbid curiosity. It’s like visiting an old friend for coffee who is still useful and can let you know how old friends and acquaintances are doing, but he also went a little psycho a while ago and now everything you talk about is at arms length. You’re still “associates,” but you’ll be happy to get out of there.🤣

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b9e76 - 2y

I can’t remember which format works to embed another post… so I’m gonna try a few and see what happens 😆 nostr:note1t6zmvzfg2xwegp95sm2k4enqq6mlrjqty57nefgscr6eylucelqqcds8jc https://damus.io/note1t6zmvzfg2xwegp95sm2k4enqq6mlrjqty57nefgscr6eylucelqqcds8jc nostr:note1t6zmvzfg2xwegp95sm2k4enqq6mlrjqty57nefgscr6eylucelqqcds8jc

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b9e76 - 2y

Networks are still valuable and ignoring them is a net loss, imo. I don’t really need to explain #Bitcoin and fiat money to anyone on #Nostr (maybe a few, but the reach isn’t there yet), but about a billion people on Twitter need to hear it. The broader reach on that network matters, it’s kinda similar to YouTube. I treat them both the same now. I just post in hopes of reaching someone who can value from it, I keep one foot out the door, and I simply expect that I’ll at some point either be banned or the place will become such a mess that it won’t have any signal left at all. To me, the idea of just cutting it out like Marxism, or a tumor (but I repeat myself) because I think it’s taking a dumb direction feels kinda like smashing my iPhone because I don’t like their new OS policy or something. I’ll drop it when it feels redundant, but it’s still my best source for articles (top articles feature saves me *hours* of wasted time), and it’s still my best way of getting in touch with tons of people. We will see how long it lasts though, I am far more invested in #nostr on anything other than a short term timeline.

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6389b - 2y

I got a couple of guys that fit that description exactly.

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The Fockin’ Fury @TheFockinFury - 2y

I dunno man. Sure, there are idiots hiding in every single nook and cranny of the political spectrum, bar none. But I reject the notion that bitcoin is more “for” one part of that spectrum than the other. It’s hard money, a sovereign asset, without permissions or borders. It’s for everyone by design. Projecting a political ideology onto bitcoin is misguided imo. I hear a lot of “you’re liberal, you shouldn’t have any bitcoin” and that’s just idiotic rhetoric and it makes the community look stupid to outsiders.

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Ivan @Ivan - 2y

How to mentally put yourself in a box. Make all thought political. MY TEAM IS AGAINST THAT! BAD!

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Jeff Swann @Jeff Swann - 2y

I agree that Bitcoin is a soverign asset that is for everyone, but that is exactly what makes it incompatible with thieving ideologies & authoritarian desires to fund govt programs without the consent of the people involved. In a Bitcoin dominant world, when all the printed money is gone, how are govts going to force people to fund their programs? Most govts can't exist in anything like their current forms without the ability to print money & covertly steal from the savings of every productive person at once. And while it may seem like a subtle difference, if killing someone gets you no closer to their money that can significantly change the economies of scale in organized violence that makes govt possible at all. Since the very nature of bitcoin threatens the way govts are funded, & the left generally wants big govt while the right wants small govt, bitcoin is largely incompatible with the left. More specifically incompatible with any version of any political ideology that advocates more govt intervention in society. It is basically a tool for destroying political authority by protecting the most fundamental property rights, which is a libertarian or anarcho-capitalist ideal. Who says "taxation is theft" & "end the fed" ? It's usually not the people who want universal healthcare or UBI or gun control or any of the other big govt nonsense.

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Marks @Marks - 2y

I’m not hearing as much “small govt” from the right these days either. They both seem to want their own version of big govt.

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b9e76 - 2y

If I had to put it as simple as I can: Bitcoin’s system is the codification of a particular set of individual rights, and there are political ideologies whose foundation is built upon the direct violation of those rights. Therefore, Bitcoin is naturally at odds with those promoting its opposing principles, or those who wish to violate the rules, implied morality, and universality that #Bitcoin enforces.

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Jeff Swann @Jeff Swann - 2y

Theft & extortion are distinct from trade in the same way that rape is distinct from consentual sex. It's consent that makes the difference. It has nothing to do with what comes after. If i steal your car & then mow your yard, that doesn't make up for the fact that I stole your car. And I don't get to then tell you that you were going to owe me something for the mowing that I didn't want from you in the first place. When a violent organization monopolizes industries that are critical to survival it's pretty easy to claim people couldn't survive without them, that doesn't make it any more true. The things they monopolize were often privately developed before being taken over. A slave doesn't owe thanks to a slave master for shelter & food. The slave would have more (in one form or another) on his own. The richest societies in the world were the ones that had the smallest & most restrained govts & also those that ended slavery first. Free markets are the only way to make people better off. Societies that collapse always do so under the burdens of too big a govt. Govt is the only thing left of N Korea or Venezuela or Cuba, it's just a govt & slaves. And with our govt printing trillions that's exactly where we are headed unless Nostr & Bitcoin & individuals with low cost productive tools can turn things around.

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The Fockin’ Fury @TheFockinFury - 2y

So I have nothing else to add here because this gets at a fundamental disagreement between us that we simply can’t get past. I think guns in too many hands is bad, government is not inherently extortive, taxes are not inherently coercive, and I don’t think violent revolution is the answer to anything because when does that ever work out well for the people? But I will say that were this exchange to have happened on Twitter, one or the other of us would have resorted to name calling or Hitler references before the third volley. I admit I’m a fish out of water on Nostr in terms of my political views but this is a good place 🫂 💜

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Jeff Swann @Jeff Swann - 2y

"An armed society is a polite society." You cannot disarm people who do not obey laws, you can only disarm good people & make them easier victims for criminals. People who support gun control are quite literally working to make it easier & safer for criminals to terrorize innocent people. Thankfully, there are enough good people in the US who believe in natural rights, & who know the intended law of the land, so they will also disobey bad laws in order to protect themselves & others. Stop paying the govt & see what happens. The extortion is not really debatable. Even when they create a virus (with your money) & then lock you in your home & threaten your livelihood & print trillions driving costs way up (making life dramatically worse for everyone) they still demand payment at the threat of force. They don't work for you, they quite literally force people to work for them. We are tax livestock that govt officials seek to control, manipulate, & cull. I do agree that violent revolution is almost never a good thing. Guns are primarily a deterrent. I would very much prefer the revolution be a peaceful & productive & so completely decentralized & localized that govts basically have no way to effectively fight it. That said, the American revolution worked out fairly well, even if the American experiment in limited govt was ultimately a failure. The problem was the legitimization of theft via taxation that allowed the govt to grow without consent. Once that seed of evil is planted it cannot be restrained. So my hope is for a breakup of the US (& most other countries) into many pieces & that some areas will ultimately renounce taxation entirely. Florida vs California or Texas vs New York already make for decent demonstrations of more freedom vs more govt, but I think a real national collapse & breakup would be much more revealing. One would think N Korea vs S Korea or East vs West Berlin would have been enough that we wouldn't need to keep repeating these mistakes, but apparently people are retarded. Enjoyed the convo 🤙

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