NVK 🌞⚡️ @NVK - 8mo
So I tested the twitter revenue thing, boy that's gonna help them. Doesn't mater how we feel about it, they are building the sticky incentives. It actually pays relatively much more than I thought, for doing nothing you wouldn't already done. That's magic for ppl. Which brings me back to economically meaning zaps. Zapping a beer counts, zapping sub dust limit won't attract the normies. The competition and the normies are not morally aligned with us. Ppl are busy living their lives.
Lebanese Hodl - 8mo
Normies are busy getting rekk’d 🤷🏽♂️ nostr:note1w2wymg7v7c7kxdlm8ududpjfeywfaa39mcm69lss6a0ye4pnwseqx0kfak
bitcoinaz @bitcoinaz - 8mo
Maybe. But those good payouts probably won't last. They're "subsidized"... Feels like a promotion to pump the subscriber program. Doesn't look like Twitter is making big bucks.
mrecheese 🧀 @mrecheese 🧀 - 8mo
Twitter just seems so anti-everything-we-should-stand-for that I can't bring myself to participate. I'm not getting a paycheck from it, either, though. My small contribution is to zap, not like. I hope it adds up and turns into beer for somebody.
corndalorian @corndalorian - 8mo
Nice post. I’ll now zap you 2/3 of a cent USD to express how much I valued it. 😂 I’ve been chastised and argued with for previously suggesting good content deserves meaningful zaps. I’ve even had some say they essentially zap in “future value” 🙄 Number bias works against creators on Nostr because zapping a couple thousand sats feels like a large number, even though it’s only really a few cents. It would be better right now to denominate zaps in local currency to give people context of what they’re sending, especially for people who have no context for the value of sats.
a76dc - 8mo
I’m reminded of Brave rewards. When it was new I’d make a few bucks a month from ads. Very cool. But then it turned into pennies per month at most. It was a subsidized gimmick to pump engagement as nostr:npub18x5tzar4hcxmgn33870aqvhlmcvrez4avjvwfye2suenp5kdfp5q5stv0k said. Still, something that shouldn’t be ignored… yet. Also, I will bet money that Elon eventually makes rewards payable in DOGE. Who’s gonna take the other side of that bet?
TK @TK - 8mo
A ton of right leaning accounts got super excited about their first payouts and I remember thinking how much of an uphill battle this will be. Donations and generosity aren't going to cut it, we need to pay for shit here.
V4V in a fiat world is harder. Ads have asymmetric returns. But, as fiat files I think we have a chance.
I forgot what client does this… is it iris? I was confused when I saw zaps expressed as cents. Made me feel odd and stingy lol.
Derek Ross @Derek Ross - 8mo
everyone has different styles and amounts for zapping. for example, maybe i zap 21 sats as a like. maybe if i really like something, i'll zap 000. if it's great content or something like that then ill do 10,000 sats. absolutely amazing content, 100K sats. we don't always have to zap "dust" as you said. it just depends on the type of content that you're zapping. either way, it all adds up.
Nostur does this, maybe others. Here’s how it looks in Nostur though. The stat on the post shows the number of zaps and the fiat value. When you open the list of zaps it then shows you the data amounts with the fiat value of each zap. If we’re going to use sats transactionally, people have to be understand the current purchase power of those sats at the time of the transaction. That includes zaps as tips for content. https://image.nostr.build/fa6b280d4e6ae795469a59a0ff6873d2f9aa0c3fca978b9b978b527d8d8dd6f5.jpg https://image.nostr.build/d26738b4291f9fbb0d7cbb1b165f6a1a288c67af8f914b17b92769545ef7b1fe.jpg
*sats amounts
I'm more than willing to stick it through but it'll be a longer and harder road than what many of us want imo
You are missing the point. We all know what, but it doesn't mater. Ppl dont care. Having better incentives needs to win economically not morally.
7cc32 - 8mo
The math checks out for small zaps being more rewarding than an impression, do you know what amount you are getting per impression of Twitter content advertisement? So you're basically saying, they got us good because they have 1000x the userbase.. correct. I don't think zap shaming people to pay 1000x to make up for it is gonna get us there.
It doesn't mater. The better question is how do we create better incentives being the underdog.
9ec7a - 8mo
the incentives are freedom fuck you money vs ad led censorable cuckbucks
Ahmed @Ahmed - 8mo
unfortunately "normal" people don't care about that :(
Stunning and brave
Have some empathy, they care just too busy surviving
not every one can be saved, even less those that don't want to. we need to stay humble and keep educating those that want / need. the vast majority have no opinion and will use whatever their friends do
my close friends don't care what they use to contact me for example so I tell them to use simplex and they download it and use it, that's great. but oh my god trying to convince family members is so much harder than it needs to be😂most of myfamilyy live in 3rd world countries and use apps like WhatsApp, its what they're used to and they don't care about privacy. I'm using chat apps as an example but I think the idea is the same, the privacy focused alternatives need to get BETTER than the competition. I think this is the only way mass adoption will occur, using privacy, anti censorship etc as a selling point will not work for the masses
