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Kanzan @Kanzan - 9h

I have a friend who quit being a Zen priest to have a family in rural France. He just told me it's more difficult as a regular householder to cultivate a spiritual practice. Kids and relationships are messy. Everybody makes their own choices. Keep your attention on the life you want to lead and just start living that way.

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Kanzan @Kanzan - 8h

opportunity cost? even more scarce than your time is your attention. you can either give your attention to noble things or not. there's a choice that necessarily excludes other things, ie sacrifice.

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Eric FJ @EricFJ - 8h

Fair. What does failing mean though? Striving towards some sort of equanimity while dealing with the endless complexities of real relationships is honorable and a very meaningful way to live regardless of outcome, IMO. If you’ve achieved a level of spirituality in a temple that doesn’t stick around your fellow humans then it was too fragile anyway

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Kanzan @Kanzan - 8h

many such cases lol

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Kanzan @Kanzan - 8h

maybe you'd feel differently if you had decided to quit being a temple priest to have a family. or decided to not have a family for the sake of being a priest.

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Kanzan @Kanzan - 7h

I appreciate your confidence 😂

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