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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

Learn to code.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

Like... by typing commands and classes on a keyboard, directly into a file and compiling or interpreting that file.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

I couldn't understand why everything is so buggy, but now I understand. You had AI write your code and now you can't read what was produced, so you just abandon it and go on to build another buggy prototype, instead of maintaining the code. I didn't get it, as I didn't learn to program on a code generator. I wrote Assembler and C by hand, in my exams, and did floating point arithmetic with a pencil and some graph paper. Didn't realize that y'all are skipping the first two years of comp sci, so that you have to idea what is going on. But... you have no idea, what is going on.

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mleku @mleku - 2d

i wish my fiat mine cto would do that, it would help her a lot

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

They are all so weirdly helpless. It's all so bizarre.

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mleku @mleku - 2d

what's hilarious for me is i basically did my first year of compsci when i was 9 years old so actually it wasn't a loss, that my school fucked me because i was determined to be right, and gleefully proving my stupid teacher's wrong, and stopped me getting into CS back in 1994 i was already past the second year in my actual skills anyway and then i went to work as a freelance computer tech support guy, and i was doing well at that, but the taxes and bullshit drove me crazy and if i'd paid them i would have been unable to work at this job yay australia, and yay socialist bullshit

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

Like.... why are there no tests? Have they never written a test? Well, no. They have never written a test. Nor have they ever seen one or know what they are useful for. Don't ask them about their build server. Just... spare yourself the cringe.

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mleku @mleku - 2d

the more you understand it, the more you realise that you are actually part of some elite of actual computer scientists, pretty refreshing, innit?

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

My dad is a network engineer, so I was writing emails and programs in the 80s. 🤙

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

I think you're doing them a grave disservice, TBH. I'm so good at the high-level stuff because I understand the low-level stuff. That'd be like trying to become an artisan baker, without knowing anything about the ingredients. As soon as things become complex or don't go according to plan, you're out.

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mleku @mleku - 2d

yeah, my father was a somewhat crazy would-be inventor except he couldn't navigate the academic system either in parallel to me learning to write advanced algorithms he was teaching me chemistry and physics he was so terrible, i mean, literally psychopath, at being a father tho, that i didn't bite at his parents offer to foster my CS skill development, because he was involved in it we live in a fucked up world, one one side, the devil, and on the other side, the army of fallen angels

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

I feel that at work, too. I'm training my colleagues, even though I'm the newbie, and revamping the toolset and stuff.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

People who can code often get stuck doing the coding.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

They can't promote you because then who would build the code?

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

I'm not even really a dev. I'm just a programmer.

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mleku @mleku - 2d

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mleku @mleku - 2d

yeah, i know right? i had a bad experience with a CTO before, who jumped in and did my job for me when i could have done it, at a much lower pay rate he was a former physics researcher, and had solid coding skills

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

😂

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

Yeah, that's fine, but if you only know as much as the AI, then the AI knows as much as you do.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 2d

I think there will soon be no professional market for people who don't understand computers. It's just gonna be real software and system engineers, designers (who will also be expected to know WTF is going on because design stuff is extremely fidgety), and vibe coders.

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mleku @mleku - 2d

design stuff is next level above programming design of algorithms usually requires understanding of advanced mathematics design of architecture usually requires a lot of years of experience programming either learning architecture with the help of a nice language toolchain (eg go) or under a 5+ year veteran who has done the same thing or had a good lead to do the architecture stuff above them

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