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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

Hmmm. 🤔 This didn't really gain any traction and it would be real work and cost real money, so nevermind. Y'all must really like GitHub. nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzquqjyy5zww7uq7hehemjt7juf0q0c9rgv6lv8r2yxcxuf0rvcx9eqyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tcprdmhxue69uhhg6r9vehhyetnwshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qpqpznhexd9k4eqpcmfj3hjnumxr6ww432ue4fvt6vlp3hxefxamvcqxt6whw

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

I wrote a blog post about it. https://next-alexandria.gitcitadel.eu/publication?d=the-gitcitadel-blog-by-stella-v-1 https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3c/61/cc/3c61ccb4e98d862630ef4cd482635d09.jpg nostr:naddr1qq78g6r994nkjarrd96xzer9dskkymr0vukhg6r994nhyetpwskhyetsdukk66t8wfshg6t0dcknzttz0ykhxar9d3kxzttk95cszxmhwden5te0w35x2cmfw3skgetv9ehx7um5wgcjucm0d5pzplfq3m5v3u5r0q9f255fdeyz8nyac6lagssx8zy4wugxjs8ajf7pqvzqqqr4tydmv2wp

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

I suppose that this is the marketing cardinal sin, that nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 was writing about, yesterday. Nostr products are too often aimed *people on Nostr*, but that is actually a miniscule subset of the global userbase, and it's one generally uninterested in anything other than zapping and tweeting. That's why products that do things other than zapping and tweeting tend to get little publicity, on here. We should be designing products that appeal to larger swathes of the potential userbase, including almost all humans on the planet, who have never heard of Nostr and don't care about it. They just want to do XYZ and are looking for a tool, for that purpose. They are not looking for a Nostr tool. And most Nostriches aren't looking for a tool, for that purpose. So, we need to market to the XYZ people, directly, with some Nostriches also falling into that category. This is a distinction with a difference.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

nostr:npub1636uujeewag8zv8593lcvdrwlymgqre6uax4anuq3y5qehqey05sl8qpl4 has been ruminating on how to make blog-type styling more distinct (perhaps with a date, entries shortened with [...Read the entire thing.] at the end, and with highlights appearing after each entry, rather than on the side, or with kind 1111 replies to each entry, rather than only to the entire publication). At any rate, would be cool to display them like a Wordpress page, or something. 🤔 And to be able to edit them by inserted a new section, rather than reprinting the entire publication.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

Also need to be able to open up each blog entry, in isolation, like so: https://next-alexandria.gitcitadel.eu/publication?d=the-gitcitadel-blog-the-great-repo-migration-1-by-stella-v-1

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

I don't have a service. We were asking if anyone would like a second "public" repo host and gitserver, and nobody does. This doesn't upset me, it just confirms our experiences with gitstuff implementations, so far. Nostr developers use GitHub, for their gitserver and everything else, and basta. Jack's announcement and the flurry of activity around it, left the impression that Nostr devs want something more decentralized, but they do not. They are very happy where they are and now we know that.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

Also, the idea that censored devs can just "spin up another gitserver" assumes that: 1) they are all running publicly-readable servers with excellent uptime, that they could switch to hosting on, 2) that hosting is free of cost and effort, 3) and that there's no social or visibility benefit to sharing a gitserver containing lots of other Nostr repos. If you look at the gitstuff repo events, they almost all list GitHub as the only source. Including our own event. We are going to change that, for ourselves and our fren-teams, who are sharing our OneDev instance, and had the idea of offering it to the wider "Nostr public". The idea fell rather flat. 🤷‍♀️ We might revive it, later. We'll see.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

No, you're conflating git with GitHub. Git repos are awesome and inherently decentralized. GitHub is "free" storage and gitserver for git repos, from Microsoft, where people can go to search for particular repos and find repos to particular topics, to submit changes to the repos, or to chat about repos and write bug reports and stuff. It's the Nostr-y part that wraps around git repos. We were thinking that we could come up with a Nostr-y git repo storage place and gitserver, that people could pay for with zaps, and make it so that you can login with a signer and sign commits with NIP-05s and stuff, and get notices over your npub instead of email and etc. Issues and discussions and patches are already available on Nostr, and we'd just tie into that. But it doesn't make business sense, for us to do it for anyone outside of our team, if hardly anyone else is interested, as we'd be stuck with the costs and the work of a larger, more complex system, for no reason. We have to know if there's interest BEFORE we start building. This is an *infrastructure* project, not merely code. That's why it doesn't exist, yet. Only a larger team, like we are, can build this effectively. We thought of it as a public service sort of thing.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

How did you manage to melt Gitea? 👀

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

We have OneDev. We were thinking more of something with lots of repos, on a cloud server.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

Yeah, this is the thing. We we're aiming at a gitserver that handles all Nostr repos. And high-performance. The whole shebang.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

Yeah, that's why it would be paid with Lightning. Le grande scheme.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

Well, "catastrophic" could just be a change in Terms and Conditions, requiring "free" popular projects to pay up or GTFO. Or downtime on the GitHub server. The Nostr gitserver provides redundancy without social dispersement, and allows for closer collaboration and tighter implementation with the gitstuff clients. But, I'm done selling this concept. The benefits are obvious, and I'm just repeating myself.

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Laeserin @Laeserin - 1mo

😅 There seems to be more interest, today. We're waiting to see how many more trickle in. It may end up just being us 15, and our 10 besties, on a publicly-viewable Gitea. That would still be worth the effort.

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