Sir Spencer, Wolf of KC ๐บ @Spencer - 23d
This "V4V is a scam" article could not be more stereotypical in its delivery. Not only do we get all the tired tropes (can't pay muh bills, some people freeload), not only is it written by a European (LMFAO!), but the core premise itself is either completely dishonest or self-defeating from the jump. I have to conclude it's dishonesty, because if the "first giver" truly puts something out V4V *EXPECTING NOTHING IN RETURN* then a) they must think their value is worth nothing AND b) they wouldn't write a long whiny article blaming everyone else on earth aside from themselves. https://image.nostr.build/449ca69bf8c29b3f2c01ccdb1d5c023b3511feb88de8da8020f71284df7779cc.jpg The fact is that those who truly understand the V4V model *NEVER* go into it "expecting nothing in return." We expect to recieve value equivalent to value we put in. We are respectfully honest about these expectations. We thank those who come through, and yes, often we shame those who mooch. V4V isn't for everyone. Not everyone can figure out Value. Not everyone can put something out without over-stretching their time (I think this is a big part of it; many spend needless hours obsessing over post-production micro tweaks that add very little value, falling into a time-value deficit then blaming the model). Not everyone can see past the purely monetary value (value comes in far more forms than Treasure. Have you tapped into *any* of the Time or Talent waiting for you in your audience? Have you even asked? If you haven't, then you are scamming yourself). Not everyone is willing to make "The Ask" a regular part of their production. So to say "V4V didn't work for me because I still don't get it" would be a more honest and self-aware take. Maybe even an article posted along the lines of "can someone help me understand what I'm missing?" might invite a more constructive discussion where (god forbid) you might pick up some tips or strategies to improve upon your value input-output ratio. But alas, we only get these takes from shortsighted fools who half-ass the model while comparing it to "traditional" ad-fueled digital media and cry because they still have bills to pay. To make the absurd claim that "V4V is a scam" is the sort of thing that signals to me "please avoid my content at all costs, for I am fully retarded." #V4V #asknostr #my2sats
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That's the point, innit? We often get what we expect ๐
That's my main beef is every time I see "muh v4v don't work" write-ups it's all blame, no accountability, no soul-searching. I don't know how anyone could possibly succeed in v4v with that sort of mindset. It is offensive to those of us who have found great value from relatively small but dedicated audiences to be called "scammers" by whiny fools who are assmad they can't figure it out.
Gigi @Gigi - 23d
> many spend needless hours obsessing over post-production micro tweaks that add very little value That's an excellent point, as is mentioning talent & treasure. Appreciate you ๐ซ
Likewise, brother ๐ hope you are well! If you feel up to a trip back to the Bowl sometime, it would be an honor to have you back! ๐ซก
Yes exactly. It allows you to have all the freedom but simultaneously forces you to assume all the responsibility. A lot of people can't handle the responsibility.
