Peter Todd @Peter Todd - 6mo
Heh, I applied for a $20k grant to do a proper analysis of Nostr's decentralization on Saturday. Same idea (and similar cost) as my recent L2 Covenants article. Only took them one business day to reject it (took them 6 weeks to reject my grant request to keep OpenTimestamps running). I'm not surprised. I strongly suspect there isn't much good to say about Nostr's decentralization and I hear OpenSats is funding a bunch of Nostr. Nostr needs a serious redesign.
Re: the OpenTimestamps grant request, the problem is right now while the protocol scales in theory, the backend does not. It would be quite easy for a bad actor to DoS attack OpenTimestamps out of existence because I simply can't throw servers at the problem: the backend code just doesn't scale. I need funding to put in a bunch of hours to fix this. So far, no luck in finding that; OpenSats is one of a few sources I've tried. Frankly, I suspect that there isn't actually much interest in time-stamping.
To be exact, IIRC I estimated it at 153 billable hours at $150/hr. Billed like lawyers do, with only time spent directly on the task. So for a "days" work that means 4 hours billed like that. I also offered doing it as a fixed price contract.
Ironically this reply guys are a really nice example of a problem with Nostr's decentralization claims... nostr:nevent1qqswwej6zrtr7au8h5qk3ptuzfeshzvvm6nmqfyg77qpq6utpu7p6rgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsygq3rq8vzf6xwk7xcfmev9trx44yl7jejzvcyty24xqq0rxthyj82upsgqqqqqqszrcew8
Leo Wandersleb @LeoWandersleb - 6mo
What have you built and gotten perfect from the start lately? But nice roast.
Peter was very public about seeing serious issues but I haven't seen him consider the outbox model. I've seen some project - was it some git replacement? - using some DHT to store the outbox relays of users and with TOR in the mix ... how is nostr not decentralized? I don't get the criticism and thus I don't get the need to spend $20k on exploring problems that are not problems yet. Yes, nostr is dirty and naive in its approach but it still might actually work.
Silberengel @Silberengel - 5mo
Some relays are only ws://local, for instance.
I know of a private one that is not listed, intentionally.
I actually just run Citrine in my phone.
Peter Todd @Peter Todd - 5mo
I don't have a copy. It's a web form, and OpenSats doesn't give you a copy of what you submitted.
Brunswick @Brunswick - 5mo
Do you know of an article that describes the concern you and nostr:nprofile1qqsrhuxx8l9ex335q7he0f09aej04zpazpl0ne2cgukyawd24mayt8gprdmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuam9wd6x2unwvf6xxtnrdakj7qgnwaehxw309amk7apww468smewdahx2tckuej4c have about nostr's lack of decentralization and what other systems to compare it with that meet the standard you are applying to consider it sufficiently decentralized?
Leo Wandersleb @LeoWandersleb - 1d
nostr:npub10pensatlcfwktnvjjw2dtem38n6rvw8g6fv73h84cuacxn4c28eqyfn34f $1M/month in funding is a huge win for Bitcoin & OpenSource! But the community needs more clarity. https://opensats.org/transparency is a start, but lacks specific grant amounts. We see ~50 recipients. Is the average grant ~$20k/month? My @WalletScrutiny application (and others) received no response. nostr:npub1ej493cmun8y9h3082spg5uvt63jgtewneve526g7e2urca2afrxqm3ndrm's situation nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpn92tr3hexwgt0z7w4qz3fcch4ryshja8jeng453aj4c83646jxvqyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2qgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkcqpqrf5frvx86d6n99d6sntjsxenjrmgzpm4qht7hzersyx6h87dzryqmyxhuk also raises questions but he at least got a rejection. Given OpenSats' influence, greater transparency is crucial for trust.
