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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

#Alexandria is also an attempt to create a human-centered AI implementation. Helping humans find, integrate, and confirm original source material, rather than just replacing the source with a stream of smart-sounding-but-questionable gibberish. People should be able to, for instance, click on a poem excerpt and see the entire poem, visit a wikipage about the poet, checkout the npub that created the excerpt, etc. Summaries are a great jumping-off point, but not a replacement for reading something yourself.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

Another example: If someone quotes the Bible to you, do you just assume it's correct? We both know, that you probably don't have the entire thing memorized. Well, click on the quote. What document does that lead to? Is that the translation you prefer? No? What does your translation say, instead? Display the delta between the two texts. Show me the commentary from people I trust, that discuss the delta. Do your own research.

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mleku @mleku - 5d

allowing users to tag and recompose stuff is the primary objective of the project as i understand it

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

And annotate, highlight, and navigate, yes. And also just publishing and reading books and magazines and compendiums, as a unit. But, sometimes you grab a book at the library and sit down and read it front-to-back. Other times, you click on something on the Internet and are like hmmm... and search for something else, and then you click through there to a different place. We want to accommodate both reading styles. Until now, they've been separate. We're creating a sort of Internet of source material, where you can click from one to the other to something similar... So that you navigate through the books, themselves. Then you can go deeper and wider into the books. Does the book have an footnote? Click it and it opens up the detail. Click on the detail and you go to the original source of the detail. Does the original source have an Appendix? What are the highlights your frens have left in the Appendix? Click on that and see their whole discussion open up. Oh, that was a debate from their reading club that meets online every Wednesday, at 4pm CET? Yes, I'd like to join that club... And so on and so forth...

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

Joining the paid theforest.nostr1.com relay will open up advanced search, computation, server-side LLM, community membership, archiving, sales services, support, advanced access to new versions, etc. We are also creating a full implementation (multiple clients for different platforms, including ePaper, relay, database, and etc.), that will be offered as an open-source package, but you can pay us to host your own version of it and/or to help you customize it for your own community.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

We have the two-pronged approach, as we think custom installations would be attractive for religious groups, schools, homeschool coops, universities, clubs, etc. TheForest community is where we ourselves will be hanging out and reading, so support will also be there. We see that as a more universal space.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

Although, you know, we don't have as much pressure to monetize, as other teams. And we have religious and philosophical reasons to build this. This is our rage against the machine.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

How do you know anything is not tampered with? People buy fake-classics from Amazon, all the time. Nostr adds the possibility of humans adding trust to publications.

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mleku @mleku - 5d

speaking of communities, i noticed that flotilla can do things, do you see this? https://flotilla.social/spaces/wss%3A%2F%2Fmleku.realy.lol%2F/_

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

Nostr is a free country. You can upload anything you want to any relay you own or that allows you to write to it. Alexandria will display it, if the relay is in your relay list. The individual npubs will decide, if it's worth reading, and tell their friends.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

Yes, flotilla and chachi. We've tested both. Headed in the right direction. 👍🏻

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mleku @mleku - 5d

but nobody is using it 😞

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

We're literally going to let you write comments in the margins and share them with the public. 😁 We are all Fermat. https://image.nostr.build/df376604a75622acf7d4e0f96645501325635e6e06372a7bcf14a549c8927e8e.jpg

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

Because you need something to be a community _around_ . And that something can't be Bitcoin because almost all relays are Bitcoin communities, already. You have to have something people want to gather around and discuss, like books (theforest) or religion (#biblestr).

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

Also, they're not real releases, just prototypes.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

Yes, but that's why we have TheForest community relay. Everyone is welcome, so long as they remain civil and don't post stuff that will get us reported to the FBI or require nostr:nprofile1qqsglv2qkn5dmmuhee9cy8fywfu2rfp4xd3xy0myqg2gfvmjl9yqqrqpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3eryvfwvdhk6qgswaehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5q3qamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wd3skueqnl443d to need a new bottle of eye bleach. We want to facilitate tough academic and philosophical debates in a gentleperson's tone. People can have their own, additional communities, with their favorite echo chamber, and see entries from both places.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

We are Nostr, sir. You and I.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

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mleku @mleku - 5d

christian dev geeks who are not cool kinds is not sufficiently meaningful a thing to gather about on a relay chat? dammit

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

That's the more potentially lucrative path, but we don't want to forget where we came from, we are running it to use it, ourselves, and to showcase new versions.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 5d

Yeah, we know. We got a few years of incubation, and then we have to grow or close. This isn't our first software startup, sir, but it's the one closest to our heart and with the most fun colleagues. And, arguably, with the strongest business case.

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Silberengel @Silberengel - 4d

Yes, of course. Just embed a nostr-address link to the next note, in the current note. You could also daisy-chain highlights. You can already probably do that, today, in a different client. We're just making that sort of thing an intentional design.

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